Thursday, 22 October 2015

Don't Tell The Children.

Spanky romantic relationships don't happen in a vacuum. Many of my fellow spanky romance writers are happily married wives with a clutch of dependent offspring.

I imagine that maintaining an enthusiastic and abundant sex life is a tricky thing when you have a herd of tiny unreliable sleepers about the place at the best of times. Does this get a whole lot trickier when there's spank-based kinkery involved?

Spanking is loud. I live in an apartment block and worry that my neighbours may have been occasionally subjected to the resoundingly loud noise of a visiting gentleman's hand repeatedly hitting my arse. I do hope not. I never hear what my neighbours are up to. I hope this is because the building is well sound-proofed. Of course, it could just be that all my neighbours are terribly, terribly quiet and I am the inadvertent kinky Nightmare Neighbour from Hell.

"Hand spankings, paddlings, canings, whippings. It went on for hours.
Honestly we had to turn the volume on the television right down so we could listen in properly."
I am a parent, too, of course. Not that I have to worry about my daughter overhearing my spanking shenanigans. She's an adult. Although she nominally lives at the same address as me, even when she's not at university she generally has better places to be. I do have to warn her when popping home unexpectedly might be a bit awkward. "You're not planning to come round next Thursday are you? No particular reason."

She knows I've been dating and she seems to be pretty happy about it. I imagine she thinks it's vanilla sex that I don't want interrupting, though. And while nobody wants to walk in and find their middle-aged mum sexing it up with a gentleman friend, I kind of think it would be worse if she came home unexpectedly and found me tied to the dining room table on the receiving end of a severe caning. Which is why I always bolt the door. Just in case.

I appreciate that locking your children out of the house isn't really a workable option when they are school-age or younger. As a single parent, I got round this by having no sex at all for a decade and a half and only finally embraced the kinky BDSM lifestyle once my daughter had buggered off to live in a different county. I don't recommend this approach, by the way.

Parents have sex. It's allowed. I have a younger sibling which means my mum and dad must have had sex at least once since I was born. It's possible that they have had sex more than once since 1974. They clearly still fancy one another. I am not going to consider it though because parents + sex = ewwwww. Nope. Not even going to think about it.

I do accept that this isn't a healthy attitude on my part. Not only do parents have sex. Frequently they have sex for reasons other than making babies.

Babette Cole's wonderful book Mummy Laid An Egg explains exactly where babies come from. It's written for children and brilliantly - while also explaining about penises and vaginas and sperm and whatnot - tells small people that Mummy and Daddy also have sex for fun. Here are some ways mummies and daddies fit together:
And while I'm delighted that kids who read this book might grow up thinking that skateboard sex, clown sex, helium balloon sex and space hopper sex are a natural part of adult interpersonal relationships, it sadly doesn't cover the option that sometimes a man and a woman who love each other very much may choose to hit one another with sturdy implements and leave a week's worth of bruises.

So, how do you manage it, kinky parents? Does every one-hour child-free window mean a quick sprint to the spanky toy bag so that you can fit in a swift bit of paddling/nipple-clamping/*insert kinky fetish-ing here* before you have to go and pick the kids up from Scouts? Do you just shrug it off if one of your offspring wanders into your bedroom at 11pm and sees Mum bent over Dad's lap with her knickers round her knees? "Go back to bed, Riley. I'm busy inspecting Mummy's bottom. It's a Grown-Up thing."

Recently, Reddit had a thread about "Things You Don't Want Your Children To Know About You". One of the responses was "That daddy and I don't go to 'dinner parties', we hit up swing clubs."

I assume they're talking about swinging rather than swing jazz, here.
Doesn't look much like a sex club, though.
Do kids need to know about their parents' sex lives? Probably not. But do young people need to know as much as possible about sex? Abso-fucking-lutely. I have always had an open dialogue with my daughter about sex, contraception, only doing things that you're OK with and never ever letting people slut-shame you. I know a frankly ridiculous amount about my daughter's sex life. I am delighted that she is she so open about it with me. She probably knows more about my sex life than is usual in these circumstances. Although she does get the vanilla PG version, to be fair.

Maybe I'm just getting the vanilla version of my daughter's sex life. That's fine. I go to munches regularly. I live in a university town so we get a lot of students attending. My daughter's university is only forty-five minutes drive from here. I have a friend who is one of the organisers for munches in my daughter's University town. He's mentioned that they they get a lot of students there too, and, for all I know, my kid might be a munch regular, I'm fine with that. If she does have a kinky side, I hope she doesn't wait until she's forty before she embraces it. As long as we're not attending the same munches or BDSM sex clubs as one another, it's fine.

Sooner or later, every parent has to have the "Where do babies come from?" conversation. And, you know what, you don't get to have it once and then wash your hands of it. You have the "Where do babies come from?" conversation frequently over many years in a variety of age-appropriate ways. And when you have a nineteen year old daughter, the conversation largely consists of you saying "Here, have all these condoms. Please don't make me a Grandma just yet."

I'm just not sure when spanking, caning, nipple clamps, butt plugs and bondage should be brought into the discussion. I don't think it was covered in any of the books I read. Parenting is a bloody tricky business.


  1. I don't have children, but I have sometimes wondered how those that do, manage to maintain an active sex life, even a kinky one. Of course, if you are a farmer's daughter like I am, you don't need much sex education when you see animals mating, but bulls and cows don't do much spanking. As for the neighbours, perhaps you should invite them round for coffee and see what sort of a reception you get. If they back off, stuttering, you will know that the soundproofing needs a little attention.

    1. What if I invite my neighbours round for coffee and they are WAY TOO KEEN? I don't want them getting the wrong impression and think they're being invited round for some kind of spanking-based orgy.

  2. My son is nine and we haven't had 'the talk' with him, but he knows about the spanky panky, even if he doesn't know the context. We were out to dinner with friends when he was seven or eight, it was a family affair, and I don't remember how it came about, but we were discussing spanking as a form of child discipline. My son said, "Oh, my dad's a hard spanker," Then he elbowed me laughingly and said, "Right mom?" This was horrifying b/c my husband never spanks him!! After a very awkward silence with more than a few muffled chuckles (I was bright red) conversation moved to other topics. So, after that my husband told him we have playful spanking parties, just him and I, and that it's not okay to actually hit or harm other people. And then my son started wanting to play the "spanking game" of slapping everyone's butt. The kids in his class at school started playing it. It became a "thing" and we had to talk to him about respecting others personal boundaries.

    He of course is going to be a teenager/adult at some point and figure it out. I'm pretty sure he'll be justly horrified or just grossed out.

    When I was a teenager my friends and I all knew who had kinky parents, whose dad was cheating on their mom, and who was involved in illegal activities, (a good friend of mine's PTA/church committee mom sold pot) even though it was never discussed. It was just discovered in some traumatizing way and never spoken of. Over heard conversations were usually how most of these things were found out. One of my best friend's parents were swingers and every time they went out to a specific friend's 'party' my bestie groaned and wanted to crawl in a hole b/c she knew what they were going to go do.

    So, kid usually know to some extent.

    1. Blimey, how have you managed to go nine years without having to have the sex talk? I'm sure my daughter was already asking loads of questions by then. I think it's probably easier if you're married though. You can dodge the "How do you make babies?" question by maintaining that it something that magically happens when a man and a lady get married. If you're a single parent, sex inevitably comes up earlier in the conversation.

      Your son's enthusiasm for "The Spanking Game" is pretty funny, though. I think you may have a future spanko there. I was definitely already fascinated by spanking by that age.

      And I'm both shocked and impressed by your friends' parents' alternative lifestyles. I can't imagine ANY of my friends' parents getting up to stuff like that. Some of them must have been, I guess. Who knows what was going on behind the closed curtains of middle-class suburbia?

    2. I had gotten the talk by now too! I've been telling my husband he was going to have to do it before the other kids at school told our son what the what was. He's been dragging his heels. My hubs had a single mother, and she never gave him the talk! So now he thinks there is nothing wrong with just letting our poor child be in the dark.

      My son really is not about the whole boy/girl thing. When adults ask him if he has a girlfriend (pet peeve of mine) he says that wouldn't be appropriate until he's a teenager. And he hasn't asked about where babies came from since he was six, and I can't remember what I told him. I think I was vague, and said something like, "from women" or "a woman's belly" or "hospitals". I totally panicked.

      And as to my friend's parents...I think it's where I grew up. It was a hoppin' place in the 60's and 70's, and the spill over left lots of swingers clubs, a nudist colony, and some other fun things. ;)

    3. Your son sounds great. Although, random family members and family friends asking "Do you have a girlfriend yet?" isn't really appropriate when you're a teenager either. Or when you're in your forties. I think he should just respond to questions like that with a hard Paddington Bear stare.

      Babies coming "from inside a woman" sounds totally age-appropriate for a six year old. I don't think you need to initiate the sex talk, do you? Just wait for him to bring it up. I don't think your husband needs to be all "Right son, it's time we spoke about the facts of life" if your son's reaction is going to be "What, *now*? Do we have to? I'm a bit busy constructing this Lego AT-AT Walker at the moment."

    4. I know, as a society it's this cute little thing ppl do to small children. "Do you have a girlfriend/boyfriend?" But I always feel like they're saying, "Are you physically, if not sexually attracted to anyone yet?" It's ambiguously creepy.

      My son would sooo not appreciate the talk. My husband is a 1950's kind of dad and he lectures. I have a feeling that no matter how old my son is, after 'the talk' happens, he's going to be all, "I never wanted to know any of that!"

  3. I do the same. My daughter is a teen and I started explaining her all things about sex from the childhood.I also live without a husband for many years and she knows that sometimes I start dating and have sex.
    But the issue is that she'd recently installed Tinder and got some dates, I'm a little nervous...Though I talk to her about sex and contraceptives, Tinder is not the best place for a 15 year old girl. Found how to read her messages on Tinder mspylite to make her safe, do you think it will help?